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I personally don't care at all for trying to figure  out the nature of third parties at the federal/presidential level,  or for  focusing on parliamentary politics as the best/most important way to engage in socialist politics.   

Much more important is developing alternative political and economic structures, whether  this  development is in the form of seizing  existing ones (i.e. workplace takeovers), reforming existing ones  (worker strikes for better wages, benefits), or starting new ones in a legal  manner (worker  coops).   Also critical is  going on the  offensive  and blockading  aspects  of  state and capital (as we've seen in the various Ferguson/cop-related uprisings,  as well as  indigenous-lead blockades of carbon infrastructure).   Note that  all of these things are not  directly linked  to worrying about a presidential election  or  engaging in  electoral politics at all (not to say that electoral politics doesn't or shouldn't play a role).  

Even if  you do  want to stick to electoral politics, you have to recognize that getting a third  party to be  successful  requires a strong material and social base anyways that has  yet to be scaled up.  So generally  its  just empty  armchair philosophizing to talk about third parties or socialist  electoral politics in  the  abstract without talking about how  the political, economic, and social *base* of such efforts need to be  constructed and expanded.


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