File visualization

Tue Jun 17 15:44:08 BRT 2014

Leo,

Has this "always link to a new normal page instead of downloading a file"
an ActionItem (not considering the #3119, created by Braulio and the #2373,
that began with FilePresenter idea)? Did it appear on the email with "Noosfero
development updates" title?
If yes, please, show me. I don't read all Noosfero emails, but I tried to
search and couldn't find.

As I still cannot follow all the AIs that are created just by reading
the "Noosfero
development updates" emails or looking for AIs in Noosfero pages, I helped
defending the procedure Daniel showed. I understand that sometimes people
are so in a hurry that forget to send a message on the list, but the AI is
really important to have.

I think that the developer can already have the code ready when create the
AI if he/she wants, so its better to explain what he/she means. But I
really think that it's necessary to create the AI, wait a few days after
creating it and finally then include the code on the core.
It is better to avoid or improve some feature before including it on core
instead of implementing it, including it on core, and than, after users
complain about it, change the feature. (users don't like to always "test"
stuff)

ps: even if the AI was created in this case, it is good to emphasize this
:)

2014-06-17 12:08 GMT-03:00 Leandro Nunes <leandronunes at gmail.com>:

> Hi guys,
>
> Just for the record.
>
> I don't think that is necessary to discuss anything previously in this
> list.
> The discussion about something solid is much better than discuss about an
> empty ideia.
>
> If a developer is not confortable to propose a solution and He wants some
> community support to do that feel free.
> But this is NOT a RULE write in stone.
>
> Sometimes a developer will make some mistakes (I think this is the case)
> and, naturally, this mistakes will appear here in the list or in the
> ActionItem description.
>
> Everybody interested in some functionality see the ActionItem and discuss
> about it there.
>
> I read carefully every email with the title "Noosfero development updates"
> who cares so much about discuss things should read this even more
> carefully. ;)
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Bráulio Bhavamitra <braulio at eita.org.br>
> wrote:
>
>> The correct link is http://noosfero.org/Development/ActionItem3119
>>
>> After weeks, I finally came to read this. I see the discussion showed
>> opinions of Caio, Leandro and Rodrigo. For three networks, Cirandas,
>> Blogoosfero and Participa, this new behaviour is a drawback. This new
>> behaviour wasn't previously discussed on this list, as it as presumably
>> good, and then was incorporated on the core.
>>
>> What to do then? By opinion is to revert the last behaviour until we have
>> a better solution.
>>
>> cheers,
>> bráulio
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:40 PM, "Aurélio A. Heckert" <
>> aurelio at colivre.coop.br> wrote:
>>
>>>  On 06-06-2014 09:51, Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote:
>>>
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>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> On 06/05/2014 12:48 PM, "Aurélio A. Heckert" wrote:
>>>
>>>  File discussion will be nice for education, file meta-data and
>>> description will be nice for media providers (artists)... For the
>>> "*Download now*" user friendly feature, there is the download
>>> buttons.
>>>
>>>  I've written a comment on the AI where I explain why this "download"
>>> button is neither user friendly or accessible.
>>>
>>> In short: make it act the way the people expect it. No one expects to
>>> click on a link named "example.mp3" and be directed to a page with
>>> details. That's confusing for the user and blind guys would hate the
>>> developers from the bottom of their hearts.
>>>
>>>  Not exactly...
>>>
>>> You miss a important point on your comment in the AI. But... was ok.
>>>
>>> The name "file-name.ext" link title is the default page title for the
>>> file, but it is editable, without change the file name itself.
>>>
>>> The people who see a download button (*or who listen "download" as a
>>> link name*) will not mistakenly click on the page view link if they
>>> wants to download.
>>>
>>> I also disagree with what may be more useful for the blind guy, as i
>>> comment on the AI. Images means nothing for that guy.
>>>
>>> Anyway, i like your argumentation pointing blind people issues!
>>>
>>>  Aurium
>>>
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>>
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>> ideologia. Morra por sua ideologia" P.R. Sarkar
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>> "Paramapurusha é meu pai e Parama Prakriti é minha mãe. O universo é meu
>> lar e todos nós somos cidadãos deste cosmo. Este universo é a imaginação da
>> Mente Macrocósmica, e todas as entidades estão sendo criadas, preservadas e
>> destruídas nas fases de extroversão e introversão do fluxo imaginativo
>> cósmico. No âmbito pessoal, quando uma pessoa imagina algo em sua mente,
>> naquele momento, essa pessoa é a única proprietária daquilo que ela
>> imagina, e ninguém mais. Quando um ser humano criado mentalmente caminha
>> por um milharal também imaginado, a pessoa imaginada não é a propriedade
>> desse milharal, pois ele pertence ao indivíduo que o está imaginando. Este
>> universo foi criado na imaginação de Brahma, a Entidade Suprema, por isso
>> a propriedade deste universo é de Brahma, e não dos microcosmos que também
>> foram criados pela imaginação de Brahma. Nenhuma propriedade deste mundo,
>> mutável ou imutável, pertence a um indivíduo em particular; tudo é o
>> patrimônio comum de todos."
>> Restante do texto em
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