File visualization

Bráulio Bhavamitra braulio at eita.org.br
Wed Jun 18 15:56:17 BRT 2014


Does not deserve an answer, really!! Let's try something better than this!


On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Leandro Nunes <leandronunes at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Looikng for my emails i received notification about ActionItem3119 in  29
> april, 01 may, 06 june, 7 june.
>
> The procedure Daniel showed doens't works. Look at this.
>   1. New AI must be created, with sufficient information (not only title
> but some description)
>
> What is sufficient? It's an abstract concept. So this is a big problem.
>
>  Look theses ActionItem made by eita.
> http://noosfero.org/Development/ActionItem3168
> http://noosfero.org/Development/ActionItem3169
> http://noosfero.org/Development/ActionItem3149
> http://noosfero.org/Development/ActionItem3156
> http://noosfero.org/Development/ActionItem3101
>
> They are clear enough?
> For me no.
>
> Did you saw me crucify Braulio or Eita because of this?
> No. You will never see that.
>
> Because I believe he made his better with the time he had.
>
> This is what I assume.
>
> 2. A message with the proposal is sent to the list
>
> Any of these ActionItem was sent for the list?
> I look for them here I and didn't found anything.
>
> 3. If in 1 week there is no negative reaction, then everything is ok. If
> there are reactions to the proposal, it should be discussed before sending
> the code, so that the developper doesn't spend time developping something
> that won't be accepted. This discussion would be done by the list until a
> common consensual solution would be found.
>
> If it wasn't sent to the list this step couldn't be done ok?
>
> 4. When the developper concludes the code and makes merge-request, it
> should be put as a link to the code in the AI page.
>
> This was done.
>
> Theses ActionItem is just some of them that I found quickly here.
> Of course there is a lot of ActionItem like this.
>
> So. Eita doesn't follow his "own procedure" and Eita wants everybody else
> follow It.  Really?
>
> I am not criticizing Eita because they don't follow the procedure. All the
> ActionItem that I am interest  I saw the ActionItem description and I make
> a comment there. Simple like that.
>
> Things are more natural that some people think.
> The ActionItem creation is a way that the project found to make public
> some ideas about something.
> Some developer could make an excelent contribuition for the project
> without make an ActionItem and because He doesn't follow the procedure we
> will not accept. Is this that you propose?
> If a developer do that He made an risk option beacuse his contribuition
> could not be applied depends on how intrusive it is.
> In other  words the ActionItem creation is a good practice to make your
> contribuition be accepted more quickly.
> The more intrusive the contribution is greater the need for explanation
> and detail, sometimes with videos and/or prototypes.
> If something 'wrong' is accepted by the core team It should be changed and
> It is not the previously discussion in the list that will avoid that these
> things happen.
> It is important to say that I think all active noosfero developers create
> the action item before code creation and they naturally put some
> description about what will be done. Of course that some mistake could be
> done, but I think procedures have to be emphasized always and We could not
> crucify people because something wrong happens because we put people away
> from the project discussion.
> If you insist with something that doesn't work just because is what you
> think is a good practice you will just make people not respect everything
> you say.
> First of all you have to convince people that something you think is
> important after that you could request people to work like you propose.
> Please do that based in solid arguments not based in a community meeting
> certainly at lest half of the active developers don't participate of it for
> different reasons.
> Free software doesn't works with only "presencial" meetings.
> I don't think if you pay attention carefully but We have this discussion
> recurrently. This is because some people accept that procedure like an
> absolutly truth write in stones just because is convinient as argument in a
> discussion.
>
> That procedure never exists in fact.
>
> Wake up people. You will not change a way how free software ever works
> proposing a boring way based on more works for developers to apply
> improvements or fix bugs.
>
> If you guys want's to live a ilusion go ahead.
> I am off ;)
>
>
> PS: I will not waste my time with this loop discussion anymore.
>
> --
> Dois Axé!!!
>
> -----
> "Comece fazendo o que é necessário, depois o que é possível e de repente
> você estará fazendo o impossível."
>                                    São Francisco de Assis
> Leandro Nunes
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por um milharal também imaginado, a pessoa imaginada não é a propriedade
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universo foi criado na imaginação de Brahma, a Entidade Suprema, por isso
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