AI3031 - new feature in core without discussion in the list

[Rodrigo Souto]

Hello everyone,

Nice feature! I couldn't take a look at the code yet, but as far as I
can understand, it would be nice indeed to have this feature discussed
on the list. Nevertheless, it's too early in the community to expect
100% commitment to this kind of culture.

Also, I think that new infras on the core doesn't necessarily need to
work perfectly for all situations (even though that's what we search
for), after all, it's a new infra. Sometimes there are limitations of
resources and it's better to just take the first step towards the ideal
instead of just wait until we're able to do the whole thing. I'm not
against including half-done infras as long as they don't harm the rest
of the code.

If that's not that much work to make the infra work for every block, I
think interested developers can contribute to make it happen. If not,
it can wait until someone is interested enough.

I like the idea of the blacklist to the cases that might not work and be
too hard to fix.

daniel tygel escreveu isso ai:
> Hi all,
> 
>    I'm having some exchanges with Victor Costa about the AI3031, which is
> something interesting (nice initiative!), but again it's a core new
> functionality and was *not discussed or presented* in the community. Because of
> that, it became a core AI which only works in a single side block, which is a
> plugin block (!): a core functionality for a plugin sideblock, not discussed in
> the list.
> 
>    So I suggested that it be available for all side blocks, and be disabled
> (through a blacklist) to the sideblocks where it does not work (Victor said
> that there is one block where the feature does not work).
> 
>    Well, I'm bringing this discussion to the community, to see if there are
> other comments or ideas on that. From http://noosfero.org/Development/
> ActionItem3031
> 
> Description: Display a button on sideboxes edition to show a code to embed
> blocks. ( https://gitlab.com/noosfero/noosfero/merge_requests/148 ) - March 7,
> by Marcelo Lima Junior, waiting for review
> 
> Debate:
> 
> Daniel: Hi Marcelo, What are the blocks? Are they the same sideblocks? Could
> you explain a little bit about your proposal? It looks like being something
> interesting, but I didn't get the usability issue. I saw in the code that it
> allows you to make an iframe. Is this iframe going to be in the sideblock
> itself, or a kind of shortcode to allow the user to put it in a content, like a
> blog post? Thanks, it looks like something good!
> 
> Victor: This AI proposes a infra to display blocks outside noosfero (using
> iframe). This is enabled only on track block for now. (he sent then 2 images:
> http://noosfero.org/pub/Development/ActionItem3031/embed1.png and http://
> noosfero.org/pub/Development/ActionItem3031/embed2.png)
> 
> Daniel: Ah, now I understoon. Interesting proposal. Could we think about a
> better icon for the button? And maybe some option for an iframe with https? Is
> this proposal extendable to other blocks? I mean, is this a sufficient general
> code that can be used in noosfero? Or it's a feature in the plugin only? I
> think we could propose this feature as a core feature in Noosfero, or as a
> plugin that would generate this iframes for all blocks if activated. What do
> you think?
> 
> Victor: It was implemented as a core feature but we had problems with some (one
> I guess) blocks. Thus, we let activated only on the track block. For now we
> don't have time to ensure that this will work for all other blocks.
> 
> Daniel: If it's core, it should be discussed in the community list. And if
> there is a problem in one block, this could be shared with other developers.
> Maybe we could help? It's strange to have a core feature that only works for a
> plugin block. This is not a good practice. I think it would be better to have
> it working on all blocks and create a "black list" to have it disabled in the
> one single block where it does not work.
> 
> 
> 
>           daniel
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